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Book Publishing - Phase II - let the votes roll in

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What Percentage?

  • 5
    11%
  • 10
    61%
  • 15
    28%

Total Votes: 18

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what charity?

  • American Red Cross
    38%
  • Boys & Girls Clubs of America
    10%
  • Child Abuse Prevention Center
    19%
  • City of Hope and Affiliates
    5%
  • Family Literacy Foundation
    14%
  • Mayo Clinic Foundation
    0%
  • Scholarship America
    10%
  • The Sierra Club Foundation
    5%
  • Wildlife Conservation Society
    0%
  • Wildlife Warriors
    0%

Total Votes: 21

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Politics - Right

  • Obama's DNC Speech from a republican POV
    20%
  • Police raid on RNC Welcoming Commitee
    7%
  • Emotion runs high as RNC protesters hold conferenc
    0%
  • Political Identity Crisis: Conservative or Neo-cla
    20%
  • Eight Young Republicans You Should Be Watching
    53%

Total Votes: 15

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Politics - Left

  • If Obama Scares you, So Should I...
    20%
  • An Experiment in Wealth Redistribution (Obamanomic
    20%
  • Consistency: An Open Letter to Obama's Supporters
    33%
  • Turning Virginia Blue -- DNC Keynote Speaker Mark
    7%
  • DNC Wednesday: On the Inside
    7%
  • The "Greenest" Convention
    13%

Total Votes: 15

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Social

  • Troy Anthony Davis - an inside look
    19%
  • Race...the pink elephant in the room....can we tal
    19%
  • Silencing our Joy - A letter from Troy Davis's Sis
    6%
  • Bitches and Hoes - Exploring Misogyny in Hip-Hop
    25%
  • The Male Sexual Revolution: Defining a New Masculi
    6%
  • Eight Things You Just Can't Say In The U.S.
    25%

Total Votes: 16

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Introspective / Testimonial / Narrative

  • My Friend Phil Clapp
    44%
  • Sleep - my life with heroin
    13%
  • Dear Old Dad
    0%
  • Reflections of my life...
    0%
  • Goodbye Dad, I love you
    38%
  • A Relative's Alcoholic Drinking - A Memoir
    6%

Total Votes: 16

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Wanderings

  • A 5 Year Old Grills a Clown, NO ADULTS! Just Akash
    11%
  • [Satire] 10 Things People Who Have My E-Mail Addre
    16%
  • The Dark Side of NASA
    0%
  • Boobs! A Natural history
    5%
  • Mother's Day
    53%
  • Knowing truth: A cow called Walnut
    5%
  • Promises, promises.
    11%

Total Votes: 19

Live Poll

LATE - Political Center

  • It's Hard to Make Fun of Left-Wing Goofballs When
    10%
  • Top 10 Lists: What Liberals Should Know, What Cons
    90%

Total Votes: 10

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Roughly two weeks ago I presented you all with the idea of publishing a book which contains the original works of Newsvine users. Since then a handful of you have submitted articles to be published.

This week, we move to Phase 2, voting on the content. Previous votes were for how profits if any would be handled. As it stands, you have said that you did want to make profit based on the base price of the book and given to a Newsvine listed charity.

To clarify this, what this actually means is that there will NOT be a portion of money going to charity, but ALL of the profit going to charity. If the total profit from every book sold equals.... 50,000 (unlikely, but a cool number nonetheless), then whatever charity organization you guys pick this week will receive 50,000 dollars. The cost of the book will be whatever it costs to make the book via BLURB. Generally, the book will be around $50, plus shipping and handling, PLUS what we set for profit. The charity will get profit as long as the profit exceeds $25 a month in sales, if the books sold do not make $25 a month in sales the profit rolls over until there is $25 or more to give out. I'll be setting up the address to send checks to through BLURB so that it will go directly to the charity, there will be no middle man between you, I, Newsvine and the Charity. The charity will know that it came from the Newsvine Community (because I have to tell them).

In any event, we now need to determine what percentage of the base price to set the profit at. If we say 10% and the base price is $50, then the profit per book would be $5. It's fairly simple and straight forward. Still, we need to figure a percentage.

Another thing we need to decide is to which charity should the money go?

Here is a list of the charity organizations via the charity navigator, found on every users' 'earnings' page.

CHARITIES

Now, for the time consuming part, and it's the most important part aside from the actual nominations so I really do need you guys to take a couple of hours out and really read them and judge them. I know that with all of the political "news" and news floating around we'll want to NOT read these and engage in some kind of moronic drivel over who's trying to kill who, why the government sucks, and how many people died where... it's important yes, you can't change that personally at this point - this you can. I'm just asking for maybe 2 hours of time. The world will still be ablaze when you get done and chances are, the same things will be burning at the points as when you left.

Also, these votes don't have a longevity requirement - none of them ever did. Just becuase you might be new to Newsvine doesn't mean you're new to quality. It's not a popularity contest, nor is it something that would make someone want to be your friend - there are no brownie points here, sorry. And, unlike public votes for President, these votes actually count.

Originally there were supposed to be a few articles for each NV category and a subdivided politics section. Given that a majority of things don't' have a classification, or are political I'm going to have to restructure the layout - how? Well, I'm open to suggestions. But, I digress... you want to go ahead and see what's up to vote for and vote so I can stop pushing you, I know...

ARTICLES
In an effort to give the book thickness and to remove the stress of going through and picking and voting on EVERY title here, only sections that have 5 or more nominations will need to be voted upon. Sections with 4 or less will be automatically included. The one exception to this is POLTICS - CENTER becuase the two submitted articles are by the same author. The top 4 vote receiving articles will be published (pending permission)

Politics - Right
"RIGHT" doesn't imply that the authors are right leaning, but that the content pertains either favorably or unfavorably to the 'right'. Likewise, "LEFT" simply means the articles pertain to the left side of the political fence, and not that the authors are left leaning.

Politics - Center

Yeah... only 2, by the same guy. So I'm only going to publish one - whichever of the two has the most votes - obviously.

Politics - LEFT

Social
Social includes extroverted observations or things that impact society

Breaking News
breaking news are the stories that user reported on because they were there. They are not political in nature.

Global
Global is just as it sounds - world events, national or international travel

Introspective / Testimonial . Narrative
Introspective is the section for articles about the auther, you know, events in their life, or things they recall horridly or fondly.

Wandering
"Wanderings" is sort of a unclassified section. It's things that have no specific home - they simply are.

Art
self explanatory.

Now... it looks like a lot to absorb and sort though, and it is. But, I never said it would be easy - I said it would be good. Some of you have heard me say this before - nothing good comes easy and nothing easy is any good. Anyway, I'd like to thank you guys thus far... the next phase will require next to nothing from you other than patience. This will turn out how you tell me to make it, so... be on point.

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{"commentId":4103128,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

WTF? Where did my polls go?

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  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:59 PM EST
{"commentId":4110345,"authorDomain":"EllieP"}

I voted, but didn't see a poll for political center or art.  Thanks for doing this!

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  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:12 PM EST
{"commentId":4112459,"authorDomain":"neoconstant"}

Well thanks to whoever nominated my poem and article.  I hadn't even heard of this!  Sounds like a really, really good idea....

...on that note, not all the categories have polls...?

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  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:08 PM EST
{"commentId":4112872,"authorDomain":"juno"}

I hadn't known about it either!  Wish I had, too.  I went to Shawn's column and learned Savannahborn nominated Mother's Day . . . 

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  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:31 PM EST
{"commentId":4115047,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

...on that note, not all the categories have polls...?

I voted, but didn't see a poll for political center or art.

The answer lies within:

In an effort to give the book thickness and to remove the stress of going through and picking and voting on EVERY title here, only sections that have 5 or more nominations will need to be voted upon. Sections with 4 or less will be automatically included. The one exception to this is POLTICS - CENTER becuase the two submitted articles are by the same author. The top 4 vote receiving articles will be published (pending permission)

I hadn't even heard of this! Sounds like a really, really good idea....

Well, I'm not exactly a 'famous' person or party to many groups - though I did post it to every group I'm a part of. I also posted a call to be heard about it a second time - but it's a meta article so i isn't allowed to be posted to "All of Newsvine". That in and of itself limited the exposure of the idea. For a while, I thought the lack of interest was due to lack of quality int he idea. But, usually when I post meta ideas, people 'walk on by", but like I said - I'm not on watch lists. I'm one of those invisible people (but I an be very loud in a forum)

Oh, and yeah... the original polls were deleted - so I had to go back and redo them...

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  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:54 PM EST
{"commentId":4115140,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

DOH... yeah your'e right... there was supposed to be one for political- center... my bad. poll is up for that.

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  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:01 PM EST
{"commentId":4116113,"authorDomain":"neoconstant"}

Sorry, missed that paragraph.  Thanks for the heads up!

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  • 4 votes
#1.6 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:12 PM EST
{"commentId":4116127,"authorDomain":"EllieP"}

Sorry, Shawn...what about "Global"?  I think I overlooked that whole category when I commented.

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  • 4 votes
#1.7 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:14 PM EST
{"commentId":4117260,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

With Global, Rob Ballews Article (s) count as one becuase they're both short and play on one another. Printingonly one isn't really going to give any reader an idea on what he's talking about and leave more questions than answers.  - so technically, global has 5 articles, but two count as one, making 4 - and it slips by a vote. so... all ofthem go in the book and everyone wins - horray for winning!

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  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:52 PM EST
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{"commentId":4107731,"authorDomain":"AutumnStJohn"}

They seem to be back, because I can see them on the right of screen. I've just discovered Newsvine and haven't read any of the nominated articles, so I'll read through them, research the charities, then register all my votes at the same time.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:55 AM EST
{"commentId":4108230,"authorDomain":"juno"}

You picked me!

I might just cry!

How can I be of help?

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  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:22 AM EST
{"commentId":4108704,"authorDomain":"juno"}

No "Global" poll??  Shall we post the answer?  

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  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:47 AM EST
{"commentId":4115062,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

In an effort to give the book thickness and to remove the stress of going through and picking and voting on EVERY title here, only sections that have 5 or more nominations will need to be voted upon. Sections with 4 or less will be automatically included. The one exception to this is POLTICS - CENTER becuase the two submitted articles are by the same author. The top 4 vote receiving articles will be published (pending permission)

that said, if you feel so inclined, you might help me let others know about this project and if you come across any authors of these articles, encourage them to stop in and vote, leave suggestions... so on and so forth.

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  • 2 votes
#3.2 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:55 PM EST
{"commentId":4115223,"authorDomain":"juno"}

Ahhh . . . duh, me!  

Thanks, and sorry it wasn't clear to me!  

I'm one of those invisible people

Me too.  I feel ya!

I'm gonna watch-list you, just because!

I'll tell all who'll listen to the likes of me.

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  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:07 PM EST
{"commentId":4115777,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

no problem. Sometimes I miss stuff in front of me

thanks, ditto

thanks, that sure would help

(in that order)

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  • 2 votes
#3.4 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:47 PM EST
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{"commentId":4116072,"authorDomain":"festivewarrior"}

This is fun!
What talent we have here!

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  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:09 PM EST
{"commentId":4117275,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

Yeah... Idon't want to sound all pissy, but I had really hoped for much MORE participation in the first phase... but... as it is, it'll make a pretty good first annual, so we'll see how it goes.

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  • 5 votes
#4.1 - Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:53 PM EST
{"commentId":4123831,"authorDomain":"juno"}

I so wish I'd have run across the other articles!  Off the top of my head I can think of a half-dozen artcles to have submitted! 

Are you on a time-line/dead-line? 

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  • 3 votes
#4.2 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:26 AM EST
{"commentId":4128917,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

No, but I think it would be unfair to set a goal, and then adjust it for the sake of one person. I think if I were to allow submissions now, they wouldn't get proper and equal representation to the community for a vote (given the poll is 7 days), nor would it be fair for me to ask those who have voted to return to once again vote, NOR would it be ethical to allow you to submit new things and then tell others "no". If I todl everyone yes, phase 2 as it is now would have no meaning and I'd have to re-write this whole thing (and drag everyone back).

However, if the demand is big enough, I'll consder creating a second volume of the annual. We'll see how this goes first, and then once there is a bit more awareness, we'll look into it (by 'we' I mean "I")

I do however have a goal set - to have these ready to print and buy BEFORE Christmas, and it'll take me two weeks to compile and design. I can't just start putting articles in the book just yet. I have graphic work to do, writing letters for permission, gatherung images and making sure they are royalty free and that I have proper attribution... it's actually - a pretty big task that my wife is hating me for right now.

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  • 5 votes
#4.3 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:29 PM EST
{"commentId":4132856,"authorDomain":"juno"}

I do know something about the amount of work that goes into a project like this, and I don't envy you!  

I was Just wondering about a solution to the turn-out dilemma you'd mentioned.  

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  • 3 votes
#4.4 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:30 PM EST
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{"commentId":4165660,"authorDomain":"AutumnStJohn"}

Ok, I've read through everything and voted. For the ones without polls:

Breaking News: And Tuesday Shook

Global: Amsterdam 2000

Art: Santo Domingo

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    Reply#5 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:19 AM EST
    {"commentId":4168558,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

    the ones without polls - all of them go in automatically - hence no polls

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    • 2 votes
    #5.1 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:12 PM EST
    {"commentId":4175002,"authorDomain":"AutumnStJohn"}

    Oh ok. Sorry, I should have re-read your instructions.

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      #5.2 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:21 AM EST
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      {"commentId":4175549,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

      Tomorrow polls close and Phase III Begins.

      In phase three (which I'll repost in an article), there are no polls - only results and waiting. I hope to have the books ready to sell within 2 weeks from now. I can't guarantee that they'll be done in time to get by Christmas, but they'll be done in time to order before them.

      I'll take the time once again to thank you for voting, nominating and being patient through this process. More detailed information will be posted Tomorrow NLT 10PM EDT

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      • 1 vote
      Reply#6 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:59 AM EST
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